hello! ni hao! salut! hallo! konnichi wa! :D

charmy · February 25, 2010, 06:26

i'm from Singapore :D Finished junior college last year, currently waiting for results coming out in march, and hopefully it's good enough to get me into university (: therefore the free time to be here and not buried away in books.

actually i'm working as a temp for the time being too. saving up for an iphone/itouch ;)

anw, applied for a role as a chinese translator. and hope to learn many many things from you all too!

Nice to meet you all :D

Ayro · February 25, 2010, 07:50

Welcome to.. here.. lol

I heard Apple is coming out with the iPhone 4G in late summer/early fall, so you just miiight want to wait until then to get one.

Hope you have a fun time as translator.

p911gt3 · February 25, 2010, 10:28

Welcome and good luck with your University application!
What are you looking to study at the uni?

Iteza · February 25, 2010, 10:57

Welcome Charmy!

Hope your results are good. ^_^

charmy · February 25, 2010, 11:01

@Ayro yeah i heard tooo! can't wait for it's launch!!

@p911gt3 thankyou thankyou! :D i'm looking at computer science/information systems. haven't really made up my mind yet ^^

@Iteza thankyouuuuuu :D

p911gt3 · February 25, 2010, 12:25

If you pick CS then I think we could be firends

When do you get your Results?

werr · February 25, 2010, 18:33

Welcome to the team.

Quote from: Ayro on February 25, 2010, 07:50
Welcome to.. here.. lol

I heard Apple is coming out with the iPhone 4G in late summer/early fall, so you just miiight want to wait until then to get one.

Hope you have a fun time as translator.

But might not want to wait, for it will undoubtedly be twice as expensive if not more.

Sharwin · February 25, 2010, 18:51

Muhahaha, let us CS people dominate this message board and rule the worldz!

Kiriane · February 26, 2010, 04:40

Hello Charmy! I'm from Singapore too! First year in JC~~~~

Lol yeah I'm saving up for an iTouch too, as a birthday present to myself xD

charmy · February 26, 2010, 07:11

@p911gt3 thats cooool. i'm leaning more towards CS ;) results out tentatively 5th march!! and that's like exactly one week away!! :OO

@werr thanksss :D yea the price is one concern D: but i can't stand a phone which can't bluetooth/have to go through so many steps to personalise my ringtone.

@sharwin lolols!!! are there so many people from CS here? what exactly do you all do in that course!

@Kirane HELLO!!! i'm from cjc! hahaha. if i decide not to wait for iphone 4g, i'm so going to get my itouch! my ipod mini is dying.

werr · February 26, 2010, 12:03

Quote from: charmy on February 26, 2010, 07:11
@p911gt3 thats cooool. i'm leaning more towards CS ;) results out tentatively 5th march!! and that's like exactly one week away!! :OO

@werr thanksss :D yea the price is one concern D: but i can't stand a phone which can't bluetooth/have to go through so many steps to personalise my ringtone.

@sharwin lolols!!! are there so many people from CS here? what exactly do you all do in that course!

@Kirane HELLO!!! i'm from cjc! hahaha. if i decide not to wait for iphone 4g, i'm so going to get my itouch! my ipod mini is dying.

Only BlueTooth? I can't stand a phone that doesn't have WiFi and at least a 453x320 screen.

Ayro · February 26, 2010, 12:22

Quote from: werr on February 25, 2010, 18:33
Welcome to the team.

Quote from: Ayro on February 25, 2010, 07:50
Welcome to.. here.. lol

I heard Apple is coming out with the iPhone 4G in late summer/early fall, so you just miiight want to wait until then to get one.

Hope you have a fun time as translator.
But might not want to wait, for it will undoubtedly be twice as expensive if not more.

How do you know I didn't mean wait till then to buy the 3GS? They will "undoubtably" drop the price on it within the month of release. Also if your going to buy a 32GB then yes it will probably be 400$ or more but for the 16GB I doubt they would go over 300$.

p911gt3 · February 26, 2010, 14:15

Not sure why there are lots of people who know some about CS, but it is definitely a useful course of study. There are tons of employers hiring for it (at least here in the US) so I would argue that it is a good choice

charmy · February 26, 2010, 19:38

@werr whoaa. i think maybe cause i'm used to my nokia 6120c and my prepaid card that i dont expect those. hahahaha.

@p911gt3 lol and i was still worrying i wont be able to get as many job opportunities as other courses. HAHAHA. i'm relieved. :P

xdeathcat · February 26, 2010, 21:36

Hi fellow singaporean~ lol I'm in a poly. Let's go out for tea~ LOL

i hand held products really screw up the battery.. Or is it just me?

charmy · February 27, 2010, 08:09

hello! hahaha. i think the batt just dies after repeated charging for all products... not only apple. D: sian. hahaha. lets go out for tea. lol!

xdeathcat · February 27, 2010, 08:50

Well, the about i products is that you can't change the batt so if that dies you gotta buy a new one. i apps eat batt =(

charmy · February 27, 2010, 12:43

oh yea that's true. hmm i shuld consider that con. D: thanks! :D

p911gt3 · February 27, 2010, 14:48

What do you guys think of the Ipad??

Sharwin · February 27, 2010, 15:18

Quote from: charmy on February 26, 2010, 07:11
@sharwin lolols!!! are there so many people from CS here? what exactly do you all do in that course!

Computer Science is quite broad and there is a ton of stuff in it. Some CS include disciplines of algorithms, artificial intelligence, database management, software design, code optimization, security, graphics processing and lots of other stuff. If anything... Programming is kind of the fundamentals of CS and you get learn how it applies to all these different things.

Some of the things you learn can be quite amazing. I'm actually taking artificial intelligence next term, and I hope it's fun... But I heard it's hard ;x

Quote from: p911gt3 on February 27, 2010, 14:48
What do you guys think of the Ipad??

Oh you mean the iTampon owait xD...
Honestly it looks like a giant iPod Touch. The problem is finding where it fits in. iPod Touch is portable. Netbook has everything to be a super portable PC. Though iPad seems to be lacking quite a bit to justify the size of it. For me... I think the iPad would be a decent video game player (inside your house) or watching a video while lying down or something.

charmy · February 27, 2010, 21:21

Quote from: p911gt3 on February 27, 2010, 14:48
What do you guys think of the Ipad??

i think nice to have, but not worth to buy. at first you might think, hey that's cool. then after while you realise that you dont actually really need it. maybe if it was more like a computer, then it'll be more useful. that's what i think.

Quote from: Sharwin on February 27, 2010, 15:18
Quote from: charmy on February 26, 2010, 07:11
@sharwin lolols!!! are there so many people from CS here? what exactly do you all do in that course!
Computer Science is quite broad and there is a ton of stuff in it. Some CS include disciplines of algorithms, artificial intelligence, database management, software design, code optimization, security, graphics processing and lots of other stuff. If anything... Programming is kind of the fundamentals of CS and you get learn how it applies to all these different things.

Some of the things you learn can be quite amazing. I'm actually taking artificial intelligence next term, and I hope it's fun... But I heard it's hard ;x

i just hope that i will be able to familiarize myself with the programming languages = contant practicing/studying = dead if i still dont know @.@ artificial intelligence sounds cool :D

Sharwin · February 27, 2010, 23:20

Once you learn the premise or the basis of how to program, it's pretty easily applied across multiple languages. The only difference is the syntax and maybe each language has some special stuff it's better at :P... Though once you kind of have that programming mind, it's not that bad to learn a new language xD.

xdeathcat · February 27, 2010, 23:52

LOL AI. Which language?

Ipad seems useless. It's a cool netbook toy. And does practically nth beyond that.

charmy · March 02, 2010, 05:03

Quote from: Sharwin on February 27, 2010, 23:20
Once you learn the premise or the basis of how to program, it's pretty easily applied across multiple languages. The only difference is the syntax and maybe each language has some special stuff it's better at :P... Though once you kind of have that programming mind, it's not that bad to learn a new language xD.

that sounds hopeful. hahahaha. any books to recommend? like i have absolutely no idea where to start after arriving and staring at the big bookshelf in the library. like which language should i start with? sorry for my bombardment of questions ><

p911gt3 · March 02, 2010, 11:08

In my opinion I think the best place to start would be to grab a DATA STRUCTURES book that deals with an object oriented language like C# or JAVA. This will have many advantages over starting in other places but the biggest advantage is this:

You will understand how data structures are implemented in memory and and how to implement them in the language. But you also will be able to know why you should choose one data structure over another for the programs you write.

This is my personal opinion but it might not be completely correct, but it is based on my professional experience and my educational experience. At work I notice that many of the software engineers I work with know this material but don't always apply it properly, which causes some of their programs to be sub optimal. Many times simply changing the structure of their data would save many clock cycles and allow the program to run much more quickly.
The reason I recommended an object oriented language is because most of the work I do professionally is done in an OOPL (whether or not the engineers decide to make the code object oriented is another story lol) and having understanding of how to make object oriented code will be immensely helpful to you in your career.

After reading a data structures book, continue on with a book on whichever language you like because now it should only be syntax that you need to learn for other languages. That is the easy part

If you got a book on object oriented programming, that would help you learn more ways to utilize object oriented code, and why it is beneficial.

Again I would like to remind you that this is only my opinion, but I feel that if I were to start now, that is how I would start.

Good luck with your studies. If you need any help, I am sure all of us CS people would be happy to help :)

P.S. maybe check out this book ISBN 0-672-32453-9 or a similar one.

charmy · March 02, 2010, 21:15

Quote from: p911gt3 on March 02, 2010, 11:08
In my opinion I think the best place to start would be to grab a DATA STRUCTURES book that deals with an object oriented language like C# or JAVA. This will have many advantages over starting in other places but the biggest advantage is this:

You will understand how data structures are implemented in memory and and how to implement them in the language. But you also will be able to know why you should choose one data structure over another for the programs you write.

This is my personal opinion but it might not be completely correct, but it is based on my professional experience and my educational experience. At work I notice that many of the software engineers I work with know this material but don't always apply it properly, which causes some of their programs to be sub optimal. Many times simply changing the structure of their data would save many clock cycles and allow the program to run much more quickly.
The reason I recommended an object oriented language is because most of the work I do professionally is done in an OOPL (whether or not the engineers decide to make the code object oriented is another story lol) and having understanding of how to make object oriented code will be immensely helpful to you in your career.

After reading a data structures book, continue on with a book on whichever language you like because now it should only be syntax that you need to learn for other languages. That is the easy part If you got a book on object oriented programming, that would help you learn more ways to utilize object oriented code, and why it is beneficial.

Again I would like to remind you that this is only my opinion, but I feel that if I were to start now, that is how I would start.

Good luck with your studies. If you need any help, I am sure all of us CS people would be happy to help :)

P.S. maybe check out this book ISBN 0-672-32453-9 or a similar one.

*busy taking down notes* hahaha thank you so so so much for all these info!! i'll head over to the library this weekend. hopefully the range of books here are as wide as over there in US.

p911gt3 · March 02, 2010, 23:15

If you cannot find what you are looking for, I would look on Amazon or some E-tailer, and if not let everyone here know. I am sure we can find a way to get you what you need to be successful.

maybe I will just have to tutor you in conjunction with the other CS majors here on the forum

Not sure if you would like that though...lol

charmy · March 03, 2010, 00:17

hoho alright! i wouldn't mind that!

but of course i'll try to learn on my own first, wouldn't want to impose too much on you kind people. and i'll probably ask about this somewhere else. hahaha this is getting off the introduction topic! lol.

maybe i'll go to the libraary next week instead. results are out on friday. *nervous* haha.

Kiriane · March 03, 2010, 01:27

Oh yeah! A-levels come out on Friday! All the best! Haha half day for me xD

charmy · March 03, 2010, 02:20

Quote from: Kiriane on March 03, 2010, 01:27
Oh yeah! A-levels come out on Friday! All the best! Haha half day for me xD

hahaha thankyouuuuuuuuu :D

Disturbance · March 30, 2010, 13:54

Hi fellow singaporeans x3 or 4?

I'm a kid who finished o's last year and waiting to start poly. (:
I'm a new chinese translator, so yeah(:

Hoi charmy is from SG? ._." totally didn't realize it.

Anyway, HAIHAIHAI

(Please do not eat me up, thank you ;x)

xdeathcat · March 30, 2010, 23:27

Lol! Which poly what course?

Disturbance · March 31, 2010, 05:46

SP's Hotel & Leisure Facilities Mgmt.

You?

charmy · April 01, 2010, 09:09

Quote from: Disturbance on March 30, 2010, 13:54
Hi fellow singaporeans x3 or 4?

I'm a kid who finished o's last year and waiting to start poly. (:
I'm a new chinese translator, so yeah(:

Hoi charmy is from SG? ._." totally didn't realize it.

Anyway, HAIHAIHAI
(Please do not eat me up, thank you ;x)

heyza! :D yes i am from sg -.- and i just realised you're too!! :D HIHI! i'm waiting for uni to start now, going to NUS. HOHOHO. :X beside SP lol. and i wont eat you up, maybe i'll drink.

Disturbance · April 01, 2010, 11:56

we singaporeans are a emo bunch.
( we don't announce our nationality that clear hahaha :D )

Nus studying?

Nuuu :( don't drink me up :(

charmy · April 02, 2010, 08:51

yeh quite emo bunch. hahaha. all like -->

going to study infomation systems at NUS :)

is your course under mass comm/hospitality or sth?

Disturbance · April 02, 2010, 20:41

hospitality i think ._. but i have no idea why is it under the school of archite and built enviroment though