Scanlation Groups

Started by Disturbance, September 25, 2010, 05:52

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Disturbance

Am very upset now.

I was sourcing whether the project i wanted to take up the super-long name about the rich guy in the house manga was taken... then i decided to source for my favourite manga author's Fushigi Yuugi Genbu Kaiden... and then...

I got pretty upset.
I mean... just because you pick up a licensed manga. so you want to drop the licensed manga halfway just because you're scared of being taken down... i get the logic, but isn't it like disappointing the masses who have been looking forward to it?

That's why sometimes i rather some groups don't even pick up a manga. If they are going to drop it off halfway, why pick it up? And they still got the tendency to say... oh, because its licensed, because there's no audience, and so on and so forth, so you might as well select a few manga that you really are interested and start on with it until it's completed?

I mean it's super annoying for us leechers to have to google these hundreds pages just to find a glimmer of hope that something, a little bit of information, a piece of manga might come up only to find out that the scanlation group dropped it.

Sorry, i'm just doing abit of a ranting, because i always get annoyed when that happens. I mean seriously, so you pick up a manga and then start translating a few chapters, and then you just pat your butts and leave the remaining chapters to get done by some innocent manga group who has no manga to start off with, because you TOOK IT first? Other groups aint rubbish dump sites you know. =.=
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

i agree with ya Disturby! i've had the same experiance with hakushaku, kyo koi, and chocolate cosmos.

that is why. we. Transcendence. will not drop projects unless they are licensed......Xye?
                                

Disturbance

so far we havent....

but are you sure?  :hmmm:
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

hm....wait a minute. lemme check

wow. we didn't drop anything! *clap clap clap*
                                

Disturbance

-claps- but its gonna take forever for us to finish all our projects...especially the "ongoing" ones.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

haha. Galism.  i want Sweet Black. it's so cute!
                                

ruraine

not much we can do about it?

well an argument could be raised that US publishers have licenses to SELL certain manga after English translation, but that doesn't preclude other people from sharing said manga (the intellectual property btw and grunt work is not a rip off from the US publishers) for free.

In other words, I accept if an author doesn't want their work to be translated and distributed for free (pretty dumb author huh) but I don't accept that if a company gets permission to distribute a certain copy of the work in one market, it needs to try and stop every other provider from distributing similar (but definitely not the same) copy in other markets.

OR DO WE GET ALL THE LICENSED MANGA IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE WE LIVE.

We could always say our audience live in... Pakistan? I'm pretty sure that limited English manga get there. This is a whole different pie, right?
Life is a bed of roses--you just have to get used to the thorns <3

Chinese Translator:
Kiken Junai DNA: v2c11-v3c17 (END)
Ardour: v4c16-v4c20 (ONGOING)
Cosplay Animal: v3c7

ruraine

oh and yes, it does frustrate me to read like 66/100 of a series and then find out they've been dropped. It's like if only half of a book you were reading actually got written at all (looks at fiction.net and fanfiction.net). Unsatisfying.
Life is a bed of roses--you just have to get used to the thorns <3

Chinese Translator:
Kiken Junai DNA: v2c11-v3c17 (END)
Ardour: v4c16-v4c20 (ONGOING)
Cosplay Animal: v3c7

Disturbance

Totally agree with you ruraine about the frustrating part about reading incomplete manga.
And i got even madder when i realized some scanlation groups wanted to start on new projects, when they have like a dozen old projects that they translated a few chapters of and left it alone for close to a month before the new releases come out... why don't they just complete their ongoing ones, instead of just pure dropping them because there's very little interest? :(

I think the authors aint really unhappy about it - because they get their works to be free to the public - garner more interest and more attention to the author as well = free advertising. But its probably the publishers at work here, in order to protect their interests and maximize their profits, some of them can really go beyond.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

xD. like KHR, naruto, and all those shounen manga....WHERE'S SHOUJO'S PLACE!?!?
                                

Disturbance

I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

Furgeson

Scanlation isn't everything.

Most admins (yes, even sysadmins) have other things to deal with. And now, with licensing and publishing threats, things are getting tough. Dropped projects are only natural, and a perfect way for other groups to get more projects! :D

But speed scanlating? Stealing other groups' projects? That's unexceptable.
A disregard to human labor and flooding uploading sites with leeching and LQ releases.

icewing

what would they do if the team continued to scan even with the licensing and threats?

???
                                

Disturbance

sue, go to court...get paid lor.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

O_O. would it really get that serious?!?!? wow. i guess that makes sense.
                                

Disturbance

duh. LOL threats are not for fun. :dignose:
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

th..then...what will happen to us in the future!???   :omg:
                                

Disturbance

-sigh-

the future looks bleak.

of course not.

silly girl... look to the future, not dread the future.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

sigh.

oh well. i'll try to get as much out of this love as possible.  transcendence.....UNITE!
                                

Disturbance

you didn't realize the reason why these sites were closing down?

MH is because of the mad administrator.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

wait. MH? mangahut? i rarely go there to read my manga.

:haix:
                                

Disturbance

I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

haha...mangahut closed down.....out of business....xD. mangahut sounds like a bar that sells margaritas...
                                

Disturbance

more like a bar i guess...right now the only ones standing are mangafox, and mangareader and anime a.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

                                

Disturbance

Yeah i finished DNA at anime A. Best quality : use mozilla!
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

OH MY GOSH THE LAST CHAP WAS FREAKY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY HAD A ....KID!!!!! :omg:
                                

Disturbance

I like lovely dovely anime that ends up with a family with kids...but somehow... Beauty Pop's ending was the best :bingo:
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

Furgeson

It was too idealistic. If that manga was real, they would've been shunned for incest, their child murdered, and then they'd have to get some fake passports and leave the country.
The child was just to sugar coat it and give it a good ending... ch 17 was more like an afterword than an actual chapter  :dignose:

icewing

xD true.  it didn't seem real.  i mean...GETTING MARRIED? they would have to like...uh.....um.... :swt:


yeah. get the passports and leave
                                

Disturbance

Quote from: Furgeson on October 13, 2010, 15:41
It was too idealistic. If that manga was real, they would've been shunned for incest, their child murdered, and then they'd have to get some fake passports and leave the country.
The child was just to sugar coat it and give it a good ending... ch 17 was more like an afterword than an actual chapter  :dignose:

yeah. I was thinking they could go and get some fake passports and leave the country...then few years later...come back lor.
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

wow we went off topic. again. xD.

fushigi something something.  are we gonna do that one?  didn't someone find the raws?
                                

Disturbance

Fushigi yuugi genbu kaiden?

Why?
I like reading. I love manga. I love good things(:

icewing

idk.

oh. have you read boku no lily? it's by Esthetiques (Tomo, one of our staff used to be a translator there)!
                                

Doll

I read Boku no lily ... and i don't like this one short...
first, Because  i don't like the graphic style and i don't like sory whhich talk about miracles...Et la fille est cruche ...

icewing

T_T I HATE IT WHEN SCAN GROUPS STEAL OUR PROJECTS!!  *dead
                                

Furgeson

lol, who doesn't Icewing? *pats Icey on the back*
We'll get through this eventually guiz :T

Koyue

Hire a computer assassin.  *skip

If only.

I love FYGK.  :o_o:
However, I downloaded a few chapters and can't read them b/c I don't have the right software or whatever :crywithno:

shobeh1212

#38
I love FY genbu kaiden...
I don't get my hope ups for this one because it has been dropped for a long time :noway:
(but I do like if someone continue this .... )